New member in Infinite Club?

Yeah! Finally Advance has made a glider for Infinity...
It would be interesting to know more details about this wing! Surface area, etc...

Hi!

It's possible for example to build up a Rythmic SAT to Infinity by only using one brake, but it's not possible to control Infinity like this for more then 3-5 turns. Till then it might look like a real infinity for a short time. However, if you only use one side you will swing to the other side and if you don't know how to correct this, the glider will probably collapse in the next turn.

Hi guys!

During the Infinity Tumbling the pilot is passing exactly above the middle of the glider (with _180_ degrees angle!), making a lot of revolutions by transforming the energy from one turn to the other. The glider's tips are moving symmetrically backward and forward in each turn. From the pilot's view, the leading edge is passing the horizon completely paralel .

After passing the highest point, the pilot is swinging about 10 meters down (while taking a lot of speed) in the meanwhile the glider shoots forward violently - this gives the power to be able to repeat this sequence. Also, small, precise brake inputs are needed to control the glider and keep the infinity symmetrical. This technique is based on the Rythmic SAT's technique, that's why it is the best and safest way to learn Infinity by mastering Rythmic SAT first, and improve it with lot of training. However, still, there are only a few acro gliders which are suitable to make nice Rythmic SAT to Infinity, without taking a high risk to get a big collapse/cravatte.

To enter Infinity from Tumble (taking energy by a spiral) is the fastest and most direct way, but it's also way more dangerous if you don't know exactly what to do, how to control the glider. Like this the first turns of the Tumble will be already very high, so if you give a bad command you can easily fall into the glider in the 3rd, 4th turn, like I did. That's why it's much better to learn Rythmic SAT first, because you build up the maneuver gradually.

The list what Daniboy mentioned is correct (except Patrick Lachat, he is only doing nice rythmic sat's) However, if we want to be very strict, Infinity means you make as much turns as you want, only the ground is the limit (of course for this you need an equipment in good shape and smooth conditions without turbulences). Considering this, I would say there are about 4-6 pilots in the world who can do 30-60-100 turns, so real Infinity in my eyes (if someone can make 30 turns, he already knows how to make more). Furthermore there are 3-4 guys who can enter Infinity and keep it in for 3-10 turns, like Mike Küng (his "record" was fake), Fabio Fava. However, I didn't meet with most of these guys since october, so I don't know how much did they train and progress during the winter. There are also several pilots who has already the knowledge and skill to step forward towards Infinity, like Patrick Lachat, Alexander Aimard, Alex Rodriguez, Pablo Lopez and probably many more...

Good luck!

And he(Raul) was the first one ever to make infinty rigt? man! that must have been amazing feeling :)

if u search for "SIV Annecy France" on youtube u can see some guy doing infinity, don´t think he´s on your list...

Hi Pal,
has this very privet club increased?
I really would like to know what are the points to consider that a pilot is doing an Infinity. That´s because I can now sustain a rithmic sat very high (like a 135º tumble) from about 10-15 turns or more, but still doesen´t look like an infinty (with my new sonic 2). When I put (using the rithmic technic) the glider completely perpendicular to my body´s trajetory (when I over) and let it go, I only can handle for 2 turns at most and that´s the only time that the glider starts to deform and regain the internal pressure with the infinty caracteristics. I feel that I am near.
It´s exactly like the movements that I saw Fabio doing in the Brazil Acro Tour, but for me still needs something to be a real infinity. In the beggining movements the pilot is passing completly over the glider but still in sat/rithmic configuration and not with the glider perpendicular to his trajetory like in a binary sistem. So I think it only counts when you are perfectly in the infinity configuration for at least 5 turns, isn´t it? In this case the members of the club are:
1)Raul; 2)Montant; 3) Felix; 4)Pitocco; 5) Horacio; 6) Pal; 7)Gabor; 8)Hans? Never saw him doing...; 9) Fabio? Never saw him doing more than 2-3 turns in the right configuration...; 10)Mike Kung? The same...; 11) Patrick Lachat? Never saw...
How the judges is dealing with this subject? For me it´s very diferent when you enter into the infinity configuration just in the second turn (from an inversion of a simetric spiral) and when you need to rithmic for some turns to put the glider in the right configuration. What do you think about this?
Tank you and best regards for you and Gabor,
Daniboy.

PS - Next time in Brasil I will introduce you guys into our sacred acro temples and than you will see what´s a good condition to train acro...

Hi Loopy!
Yes it was, but on his website now you can see some videos of him making 4-5 turns in infinity movement, so I think in a short time he'll be able to do more revolutions, real infinity. That's why I put him to the list :)
But dont't worry, you can still get into the first 10 :)

The list of pilots making Infinity Tumbling at the moment:

Raul Rodriguez (inventor)
Antoine Montant
Félix Rodriguez
Pitocco Hernan
Horacio Llorens
Pál Takáts
Hans Prunaretty
Mike Küng

And in my opinion the upcoming pilots are: Fabio Baretto Fava, Alexander Aimard, Patric Lachat, Gábor Kézi and some more... :-)

It's very very ... very good pàl !!!!!!
congratulations !!!!!!!

Pittoco doing infinity tumbling on his new sol sonic:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvxtb4kfHE

Thanks guys!!

By the way I'm sorry that I cannot update the site more often but I didn't even have time to check my e-mails in the last few weeks... :-( Hope it will change.

Soft landings!!!

HAUTAMEKI AND FUNAKI !!!

slick slick slick mate

Congratulations Pal,

brilliant video!probably you are now the 4th person,
who manage this trick!!!

Wish you all the best for the next competitions!

Congratulations Pal,

its been a real pleasure watching your videos this year and to see your progression... well done mate!!
I am working on my own trick... i call it Infinite B line - cant do it yet.. keep hitting the ground!!lol!!

Finally here is a short video about my upcoming membership in the club :-)

index.php?m=21&dl=135 Rythmic SAT to Infinity

Hey Pál,
have you already found a new glider?
I'm excited to see more videos :-D

Greetz from Cologne, Germany
Malte

What about Hans? Or someone else will take the 4th place in the Infinity Club? :)

Hi Zoli!

I thought the same (they also write it on U-Turn´s website) so on Acrofolies I asked Raul how many pilots can do infinite at the moment. He said still only 3, Mike Kung can do only Rythmic SAT. It seems like he or the company went a bit too far with the marketing :-)
What you saw was probably a high tumbling or rythmic sat but not infinite tumbling for sure. Don´t you have a video about it?
Regards,
Pal